For the love of it: Jason Atherton interview

24 September 2013



From Ramsay protégé to possessor of a rapidly expanding restaurant empire, Jason Atherton has travelled a long way in a short amount of time. As he gears up to open the flagship restaurant at Marriott’s London EDITION, Atherton talks to Joe Warwick about his approach to dining, the London restaurant boom and his love of Asia.


Chefs look restless sitting in their own restaurants. Jason Atherton is no exception, glancing around the dining room at Pollen Street Social and shifting in his seat. "Where's the receptionist?" he asks a member of his front-of-house staff. "Can we have someone out here to greet the customers please?" He turns back to me and smiles. "They love it when I sit out here."

Atherton understands the need to start spending more time out of his kitchen. He wants everyone to understand how it works now that he's heading up his own rapidly expanding restaurant group.

"This is the restaurant where I cook; judge me here as a chef," he says. "If you have a bad meal here, I'll take it on the chin; and if you have a great meal here, I'll take the praise. When I open somewhere new, I'll put my chef whites on and stand there for the first couple of weeks and see what is coming out of the kitchen, but I'll never cook there. Anything else I'm involved in beyond here is me as a restaurateur. That's me trusting people I'm employing and giving them the opportunity to shine."

Since he left Gordon Ramsay Holdings, where he created and ran the hugely successful Maze, in 2010, Atherton has been in and out of the kitchen. He opened Pollen Street Social, his Michelin-starred flagship in Mayfair, the following year, and now has three restaurants in London, three in Singapore and one in Hong Kong - and consults on another in Shanghai.

Reunited with Marriott

Atherton will next be donning his whites for a couple of weeks at the London EDITION, the second hotel in Marriott International's boutique brand, which opened on 12 September. Its 120-cover restaurant, the Berners Tavern, marks a reunion for the chef and the US hotel giant, for it was at the Marriott in London's Grosvenor Square that Atherton created Maze and cemented his reputation as one of the UK's most creative chefs.

The kitchen at Berners Tavern will be led by Phil Carmichael, a long-term collaborator who worked under Atherton in Grosvenor Square and opened Maze Prague, winning a Michelin star in the process. Atherton sees this new restaurant as a great opportunity to build upon the concepts and dishes he and Carmichael developed at Maze, but, in so many ways, his life is unrecognisable from that of the ambitious chef who joined Ramsay's group in 2001. He now spends an average of ten days every six weeks in Asia. The rest of the time, he's in London, where he's already opened another two restaurants this year: Little Social, a 40-seat bistro, and Social Eating House.

Atherton, who at 16 left Skegness in Lincolnshire to train as a chef, thinks that many still find it hard to accept chefs as restaurateurs. "A journalist in Asia said to me recently: 'You own a lot of restaurants now - you've become another one of those chefs'. I get it, but I came to London with nothing and I'm employing hundreds of people at a time when things are hard. I plough everything back into the business - I'm not taking the money out."

"I want to open restaurants that please me and please my customers. Why open a restaurant just to please a guidebook?"

How does he think London is supporting its current restaurant boom, with new openings up 25% for the last year on record and the number of closures down?

"Good food has become the norm in London," he states. "When I came to London, about 20 years ago at the back end of the recession in the early 1990s, there were a lot of brilliant chefs who went bust and had to close great restaurants because the market couldn't support them. Back then, dining out was considered a luxury. Today, people feel like they have to go out for dinner; it's a part of who we are and what we do."

British with an eclectic outlook

He believes there has been a shift in the style of restaurants. "I want to open restaurants that please me and please my customers. Why open a restaurant just to please a guidebook? I know that's difficult for some chefs to get their heads around. We've got a Michelin star and nine out of ten in The Good Food Guide here, but you'd never know it by the way the restaurant looks - and I like that."

Not that Pollen Street Social arrived fully formed. "When I opened here, I let my ego get in the way," he recalls. "I tried to make the menu too fancy and too complicated. I was so nervous because my mortgage was attached to the business. I didn't know if I should go supercasual or do fine dining. I was trying to be somewhere in the middle and lost my confidence.

"Now, two years in, the restaurant is working well. It's easy to make mistakes when you're doing something on your own for the first time. I learned a lot from that experience."

He's also learned a lot from his time in Asia. "Singapore has been very kind to me; both my business partners are from there and I just love Asia," he says. "I'm married to an Asian woman [Irha, with whom he has two daughters, is from the Philippines] and I can imagine myself retiring to somewhere in Asia one day."

He would never have opened his Asian restaurants if he didn't enjoy visiting there. "If you don't actually want to go there, it will seem like twice the work," he says. "The food will also be affected, because there will be little or no love in it."

"It's common sense to use good, local ingredients where possible. Go beyond that and it starts getting slightly silly."

This November, he's taking his wife on a luxury Asian cruise with Silversea. "I have to cook dinner for 100 people," he explains. "We sail from Hong Kong to Singapore over five days and we stop off at Vietnam, where we're doing a tour of the food markets. I've never cooked on a ship before."

Although he now has to be a businessman, his first love remains cooking. He was the first British chef to work at El Bulli, Ferran Adrià's legendary restaurant on the Catalan coast, where, before it closed in 2011, young chefs lined up to work unpaid just to experience its crazy culinary creativity. His love for Spanish food is reflected in the two tapas bars he operates in Asia.

Back in London, he describes his style of food at Pollen Street Social as "modern British with an eclectic outlook". He elaborates: "It's essentially British, but if I want to use a bit of Iberico ham or some soy sauce, I'll use it. I think lots of people are now pushing the local ingredient thing too far, like only using sunflower or rapeseed oil instead of olive oil.

"It's common sense to use good, local ingredients where possible. Go beyond that and it starts getting slightly silly."

Although one day he'll take more of a back-seat role in the business, he can't imagine a time when he's not still involved in restaurants and cooking.

"I'll always dabble; I have to have an outlet because I love it," he says, looking around his dining room again. "I'll always need to be doing something creative with food and restaurants. That's who I am."

This interview first appeared in our sister publication, Economia.

Cod at Berners Tavern, the latest restaurant by chef and restaurateur, Jason Atherton.
Atherton cooks eclectic British food. (Image courtesy of David Vintiner)
Lobster sandwich and chips from Berners Tavern.


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